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Rudd bows to pressure; ETS deal not done

16 Nov, 2009 06:11 AM
KEVIN Rudd has adopted a conciliatory tone as negotiations on the emissions trading legislation this week shift to their decisive phase.

But Opposition spokesman Ian Macfarlane said there was still "a long way to go" and warned against further piecemeal announcements.

The Nationals stepped up their attacks, despite a big Government concession on agriculture, again putting them at odds with the farm lobby.

Dropping the hostility that characterised a recent major speech in which he lumped Opposition Leader Malcolm Turnbull with a prominent group of climate change sceptics, Mr Rudd said he wanted a deal.

"I want to get the carbon pollution reduction scheme through. I've said this consistently over a long period of time," he told reporters in Singapore, confirming the Government was prepared to give the Opposition "quite a lot" on agriculture, saying this showed the Government was serious about securing its legislation.

The Government will permanently exclude agricultural emissions and give farmers access to credits for good farming practices such as tree planting.

Senate Nationals leader Barnaby Joyce said the Senate Nationals would still vote against the legislation.

Nationals leader Warren Truss said the changes offered some potential relief but left farmers with major extra costs.

David Crombie, the president of the National Farmers Federation, said it was encouraged by the agricultural announcement.

The president of the Victorian Farmers Federation, Andrew Broad, said the decision would put Australia more in line with other nations.

"The Europeans and the US have both excluded direct emissions [from agriculture] from the scheme and are allowing offsets," he said.

Mr Macfarlane, who will have further talks with Climate Change Minister Penny Wong today, welcomed the concession but said piecemeal announcements could make harder his task of getting a deal through the Coalition party room, because a package needed to be seen as a whole.

Negotiations are expected to continue most of the week.

Opposition Senate leader Nick Minchin said agriculture was an easy concession for the Government because it had not previously agreed to include it.

Mr Rudd said that giving a concession to the Coalition was designed to increase the chances of a deal on the scheme.

"The reason we've done what we've done on agriculture is to underline what we are on about here, which is good-faith negotiations," he said.

Asked whether he was now confident of securing a deal when Parliament resumes today, Mr Rudd replied: "Don't know - we still don't have the full reply from those opposite."

Mr Rudd would like to have the scheme in place before he attends the Copenhagen summit next month.

Parliament today begins a fortnight session that will be dominated by emissions legislation.

With a difficult and divided party room, Mr Turnbull said he had not made any commitment as to whether the party would support the outcome of the negotiations because the result was not yet known.

Greens leader Bob Brown said the Government and Opposition were on the verge of a "polluters' pact".

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Boat people now this! This bloke is a true jellyback!
Posted by tigerdicky, 16/11/2009 5:31:34 AM
This is ridiculous. There is only 1 deal: NO DEAL on an ETS. This is about money, not the enviroment. It is becoming more and more evident that global warming is a hoax and Rudd will severley effect Australia's constitutional rights by signing the Copenhagen agreement. You were not given a mandate for this when elected KRUDD.
Posted by bob, 16/11/2009 6:23:03 AM
When you go to Copenhagen Kevin sell the plane and don't come back. You are going to sell Australia out. We can always send you a change of clothes if we have any money left.
Posted by Jai, 16/11/2009 6:53:34 AM
This ratbag is desperate to get it in because he can change the rules anytime once it's in. Why do we want it at all, it won't do one thing to change the climate just send us all broke. He should be going to jail not Copenhagen for treason.
Posted by Loc Hey, 16/11/2009 8:45:10 AM
Great news. Animals aren't part of the problem, we are. Large animals will be the best hope of sequestering the CO2 load that is presently up there. Agriculture needs to change and the sectors that have the greatest footprint (high energy users) will need to change the way they farm because some practices are not sustainable. It is time to get our heads out of the sand and look at what we are doing on this planet. Many past civalisations have failed because agriculture failed and we are making the same mistakes - we need to work with nature not against it. Those that don't believe there is any problem with climate change are gambling with our kids' future. Look at it this way: if there isn't a problem it will have cost us some money, if there is a problem and I believe there is, what will we be leaving future generations? Wake up! Australian soils have gone from an average of around 5% soil carbon to below 1% in around 100 years. That means less water holding capacity, less soil structure, more erosion, less fertility, more inputs needed, less biodiversity and less profit this is called desertification. Sick soils leads to sick people. By what ever means we need that put that carbon back.
Posted by Mike, 16/11/2009 10:09:34 AM
I'm the youth of today and I am doing something. So why don't you adults do something too? None of us want it right?? Well let's help out Barnaby - he and the others cannot do it by themselves. Barnaby is ONE person and look what he is doing...I think that if Barnaby can do it, we ALL can do it. Australia belongs to everyone, not just Prime Minsters or anyone else. I’m just a kid but what gives him the right to sell our freedom? Nothing and I know for sure that my Pop didn’t die for nothing along with everyone else who lost a loved one.
Posted by Britt, 16/11/2009 12:58:55 PM
Loc Hey, you, and apparently all the other head-in-the-sand deniers, do not seem to understand basic economic concepts. One very simple one to grasp is the impact price has on consumption, and on the search for substitutes. If the price of carbon increases, there will be a search for efficiencies in continued carbon use, and increased resources applied to developing viable alternatives. All the bleating about increased cost is pure nonsensical bleating. Of course costs increase - that is how the price mechanism works. I am constantly amazed at the (unfortunately) large percentage of people, particularly associated with agriculture and rural activities, who think the world is static. It is dynamic, and the sooner Barnaby and his dullard cohorts understand this, the better. By the way, I am still waiting to hear from you on your relevant qualifications which allow you to make such definitive declarations on climate change.
Posted by Bushie Bill, 16/11/2009 1:32:59 PM
Bushie Bill, I think that you should understand BOTH sides before you go rattling the tiger’s cage. I think you should see what it is like for farmers to produce the best quality meat for their country. And the ETS won’t just effect farmers but ALL Australians. I would think the you would understand that?? And it is highly unfair of you too be insulting Barnaby Joyce and his "dullard cohorts". Since you seem like an understanding bloke and all, surely you will understand to look at both sides rather than just one. And know this will effect all of us mate. It is not just basic economic concepts but common sense. Since you now so much and all.
Posted by Britt, 16/11/2009 4:47:55 PM
Bushie Bill - And your qualifications are any better? I doubt it. There is no consensus at all among the scientific fraternity on climate change, and that is why people will always have doubts. But I do think your 'bleating' comment is quite appropriate, considering the way you follow like a sheep whenever a politician speaks.
Posted by Darren D, 16/11/2009 6:23:53 PM
Climate change is a total fraud, just like the ETS tax. It would seem anything can be done in the name of climate change these days. The ETS will have no effect on the environment. If the environment was a high priority then why not pay farmers more for their produce and let them spend more on improving production which will sequester carbon.
Posted by mick, 16/11/2009 6:43:02 PM
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