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Rudd rejects Turnbull's carbon blueprint

26 Jul, 2009 01:43 PM
THE Federal Government rejected Opposition Leader Malcolm Turnbull's nine-point amendment plan for its carbon pollution reduction scheme yesterday.

The plan was alive for less than half a day before Climate Change Minister Penny Wong dismissed it as a shopping list of "vague and inconsistent demands".

Senator Wong said the Government would listen to Mr Turnbull only if he had a coherent set of instructions from the joint Coalition party room.

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd similarly gave it the thumbs-down, taunting Mr Turnbull to unify the warring Coalition before putting anything before the Government again.

Mr Turnbull is desperately trying to avoid giving the Government a double-dissolution trigger, which it would have if the Coalition voted against the emissions trading scheme bill.

But Nationals MPs, mollified on Friday by Mr Turnbull's proposal to quarantine agriculture from the pollution scheme, were again declaring war on the legislation yesterday.

Senator John "Wacca" Williams said he would rather walk away from Canberra with a clear conscience than vote for the legislation in its present form. "Permits could cost the agricultural sector $7 billion. Under that scenario there'd be no farmers and no food."

Senator Williams said the Government was only interested in getting a double dissolution trigger for an early election.

"Politics is what's behind it all, and we shouldn't be playing politics with Australia's future," he said.

The Nationals Senate leader Barnaby Joyce reiterated that he would not support the scheme, and other senior Nationals said they would never vote "for anything that looks remotely like the existing bill".

The Senate is due to vote on the bill on August 13.

If the Coalition opposes it, the Government could have a double dissolution trigger three months later, in November, if it reintroduced it and it was rejected again.

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The only fair carbon emission scheme will be one which taxes product at final point of sale and based on the carbon content of the product. Modern technology could make this system possible e.g. a bar code would indicate the area of origin and a "factor" to allow for the 'carbon' content of the product. High polluting industry products would have a higher "factor". This may seem to be against imported products but in reality would pressure producers of high pollutant imports to reduce their carbon content. Exports would similarly pay a tax (e.g. per numerical or other unit) but, as with imports, the source would be a region rather than a point on a map. Overall this should not disadvantage our local suppliers to the advantage of importers.
Posted by Peripatetic38, 27/07/2009 6:15:44 AM
Great result! The Liberals must get rid of this person!
Posted by tigerdicky, 27/07/2009 7:43:30 AM
I'm disgusted that such an important issue is being used as a trigger for double dissolution. The legacy of this legislation if supported by the Libs and others we will have to live with for a long long time. It's time for intestinal fortitude to bring this legislation down now.
Posted by Maybalene, 27/07/2009 9:10:08 AM
This whole business about the ETS ruining the economy is farcical compared to the possibility of what climate change could do. In all the anti AGW arguments I am still waiting and hoping for the conclusive evidence that discounts AGW. Why is the opposition so afraid of the ETS? Let it pass and let the impacts be felt if they are as bad as suggested then you will have the perfect campaign for the next election. The Coalition can go out and say we told you the ETS was a dog now vote for us and we will get rid of it. Claiming the legislation will ruin Australia for evermore is ridiculous, the job of the government is to make and change legislation so it can be repealed, modified when the Coalition is back in power.
Posted by the lorax, 27/07/2009 12:21:12 PM
An economic Gallipoli. Massive sacrifice to Australia, no impact on the wider world.
Posted by Qlander, 27/07/2009 12:22:28 PM
When all this tax is collected, what do they intend to do with it?
Posted by sally, 27/07/2009 12:38:03 PM
Sally, the distribution of revenue is well explained in the white paper released on Dec 15 2008 and subsequent official releases. The funds are to be used for compensating industries, communities and regions affected by the ETS. This is based on the revenue from permits sold at the auction system, however if the international price is low they will buy them from overseas, then the money will go to China, India, and other developing nations.
Posted by the lorax, 27/07/2009 2:19:35 PM
That would be developing nations that don't have an ETS, would it not lorax?
Posted by Qlander, 27/07/2009 3:45:10 PM
The ETS is based on pseudo science. There is no truth in it. The freezing mornings we are having here doesn't point to warming. Thanks for the people who can think for themselves and who oppose the drivel being put out by the two major parties.
Posted by Len, 27/07/2009 6:35:20 PM
Qlander, that is my understanding.
Posted by the lorax, 28/07/2009 8:12:17 AM
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