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Chilled carcases can't replace live exports

14 Jan, 2010 10:34 AM
LIVECORP'S man on the ground in Bahrain, Peter Dundon says chilled carcases cannot replace Australia's live export trade.

Mr Dundon admitted that given current supply issues there would be some readjustment in the Middle East market towards more chilled meat, it would not be to the extent where it could ever replace live sheep export.

"For a start there isn't the air freight capacity to supply 2500 chilled carcases to Bahrain a day or 4500 to Kuwait a day, which is what both these markets demand," Mr Dundon said.

"While there is some chilled and frozen carcases sent to these markets, it makes up a small percentage of the exports.

"Most of the chilled product goes to five star restaurants and not to the poorer people who buy the fresh meat from the live sheep.

"Given the supply issues at the moment there will be some readjustment towards chilled produce but supply would have to be really challenged for the market to want more chilled meat."

Mr Dundon compared consumers in the Middle East to Australian consumers using fresh and frozen milk as an example.

"If you had the option of buying fresh or frozen milk you would go for fresh, and if the retailer said you had to buy frozen milk because that is what some lobby group said you should be using, you wouldn't be happy about it. This is the way consumers in the Middle East look at their sheep meat.

"Given the option of buying frozen or fresh, they will demand fresh every time."

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Isn't the article interesting given that flesh from live sheep sits next to chilled product in huge supermarkets in Kuwait? This is more PR drivel...from a man paid to tell what ever he is told. Live export is CRUEL. NO MATTER WHAT IS SAID. If the greedy livestock industry had spent as much money on expanding chilled as they do on their propaganda then CRUEL live export would have ceased long ago.
Posted by hateaustgreed, 14/01/2010 1:07:19 PM, on Farm Weekly
No its not interesting (greede) just a fact. Both products compliment each others position in the market. When the live boats to Saudi stopped the chilled & frozen trade fell over. Telling consumers they are evil or cruel would lose both markets. 16000 live cattle to indonesia with one death , you may be silent now.
Posted by THE FARMER, 14/01/2010 2:35:28 PM, on Farm Weekly
"hateausgreed " is talking rubbish. It can't be cruel, otherwise the RSPCA would prosecute them! And I thhink it's great we can provide our healthy sheep instead of them having to get sick sheep from other countries who don't look after them as well as our farmers do
Posted by Beth, 14/01/2010 6:59:45 PM, on Farm Weekly
May be it is about time the anti - Live Export lobby put their feet on the ground in a few of these countries , as the live exporters themselves have done. That way they might be able to get some first hand experience and an understanding of what happens in these regions, instead of throwing rocks from your idealistic world somewhere in suburbia. If you (anti Live ex groups) can convince these countries to take frozen or processed meat we (food producers of Australia) would supply it and it would be by preference to process animals here. The issue is they want fresh meat. Until you people get on the ground and take note of what AUSTRALIAN exporters and AUSTRALIAN PRODUCERS are funding and doing, we can't speak for other nations, you will have to believe the word of the organisations that have put people into these markets to help educate and control what happens to our livestock . The welfare of our livestock is of upmost concern and that is why we spend large amounts of producer levy funds ensuring Australian livestock are handled correctly and local workers in those regions have been trained properly.
Posted by Sam, 15/01/2010 3:38:55 AM, on Farm Weekly
I agree. The last I spoke to Peter he was doing the buying and organising of live cattle for AWB from Brisbane. He said how surprised he was someone had contacted him. That was in the middle of the AWB enquiry. I mean why would be surprised. At least he will be in good company over there with Austrade head Ian Ross. Ian called me all the way from the ME just to say there was no way he would support giving these people a 50 choice of fresh or live. He told me he would not do anything - or tell anybody about my project to increase the chilled trade because it was in competition to the live trade. I thought healthy compertion, value adding, was what Austrade MLA and others were all about.? In fact without doing so it distorts any market-. Kerry Obrien seemed to fill the role of the rabbit that dissapeared after ALP promises on Landline. Kevin Rudd who will the sacrifial rabbit be these elections on the live export issue.?
Posted by PM in Waiting, 15/01/2010 5:12:53 AM, on Farm Weekly
hateaustgreed ... seems u r a distant minority re this, and rightly so. I love ur lack of facts, and pure emotion, re ur opinion. Relevance in competing products being next to each other on the shelf, whether Kuwait or elsewhere? None. And also ignores the market places where live products are sold. Live exports cruel? How so? On farms the weaker will at times die of sickness, or attacked by wild dogs, and so forth. You forget that getting the animals there alive is what gives the product value! The end consumer wants healthy product. Great getting emotional about things, but when the facts behind it are not there u'd be better off putting ur energy elsewhere.
Posted by JayDin, 15/01/2010 5:24:02 AM, on Farm Weekly
It is simply more humane and better economics to process our meat products locally using Australian animal-handling standards and an Australian workforce. The time to deliver carcasses in refrigerated cargo containers (by air or sea) is 4 days to the markets you refer. The meat is not frozen and it's as fresh as anything we would buy locally. Protect Australian jobs - process our export products using local labour.
Posted by Jim, 15/01/2010 6:44:34 AM, on Farm Weekly
Beth, your naivety reminds one of the mother's statement: "My son doesn't drink!! He is always thirsty in the mornings". When it comes to live export the RSPCA has no jurisdiction outside Australia. The Animal Welfare Act of Western Australia could be invoked (Section 19) and the result would be the cessation of live sheep shipments from Western Australia. However, due to the lack of common justice and the commercial interests of the trade, sheep will continue to suffer the conditions of journey to discharge port, not to mention the hideous experience awaiting them when they are hauled to a "mobile slaughtering unit in a Saudi Arabian suburban street. Sam, I have lived & worked in Middle East countries and witnessed the unloading of Austraian sheep, many of them blind from salt spray. In Australia we have the capacity to slaughter, pack & ship out all the meat our farmers can produce for export. As for Mid-East countries preference for fresh meat, the way they prepare their food i.e. everything off the bone it wouldn't matter if it was prime lamb or six tooth wether fresh, chilled or frozen so long as it had plenty of fat content.
Posted by steffi, 15/01/2010 7:59:04 AM, on Farm Weekly
Groups who are against live exports have done their research in the Middle East and have seen, as mentioned above, live sheep meat side by side with imported chilled meat in supermarkets. "Feeding the hungry" is just the latest marketing spin to try and justify this cruel industry. The fact is that they want live animals to keep slaughter jobs in their own country, whilst Australians in rural areas are losing their jobs in abattoirs and down the line processing. Just ask the Aust Meat Workers Union, they are firmly against live exports because of what it's done to their members. It's not just the Union or animal advocates, it's also the general public that can't stand this trade.
Posted by Dean, 15/01/2010 8:12:25 AM, on Farm Weekly
Don't you know, ''Beth'' that the RSPCA would love to prosecute them for cruelty, but they are unable to because of the way in which Australia's animal welfare laws allow farm animals to be treated? There is little protection from cruelty for our agricultural animals. As for saying it's great that we can provide healthy animals for them, don't you have any concern about the cruelty of live export and the barbaric way animals are treated in some countries? If farmers really cared for their animals they would not export them live. I'm amazed at how deliberately cruel some people are.
Posted by Barker, 15/01/2010 8:27:17 AM, on Farm Weekly
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